Katie: Welcome to the BusinessMakers Overtime Show heard here and online at thebusinessmakers.com/overtime. We're your hosts Katie Laird.

Esther: And Esther Steinfeld.

Katie: Bringing you your weekly slice of the business world. Well, the business world as we see it of course.

Esther: There's nothing like a little OT vision to spice up your entrepreneurial spirit.

Katie: No ma'am.

Esther: This week's show brings us a cool chapter three special features covering your employees in the blogosphere. Then in Chapter Two's business maker's breakdown, you have a great chat with Gabriella Redding. She's so cool.

Katie: She really is.

Esther: She's awesome. She's the founder and CEO of Hoopnotica. You're a big hoop fan.

Katie: I'm a hooper.

Esther: That's right. So we're gonna hear all about that in Chapter Two.

Katie: But first, drum roll, please.

Esther: Brrrr. That's terrible.

Katie: That was an awful drum roll.

Esther: Brrrr.

Katie: Ah, B minus, okay.

Esther: B minus at best.

Katie: Exactly. Our business week interview. No drum roll necessary.

Esther: Da da da da. Some sort of trumpet.

Katie: Right. You're like Little Miss Anamanapia. No; that doesn't even work either. No; okay; never mind.

Esther: Like my dad. My dad likes to say that he plays the hand trumpet and he puts his hand up to his mouth and it's like da da da.

Katie: Guess it's better than the armpit trumpet, right?

Esther: Oh God. I don't know. When you're ten years old and your dad's in the car playing the hand trumpet it's not really somethin' you want people to know about your dad.

Katie: Not especially. But now it's on the radio. Way to go, Esther.

Esther: Thanks, Dad. So what's happening this week? My God. Tell me something good.

Katie: So here's an interesting article that I found on AJC.com on a blog called the Barr Code, Barr as in B-A-R-R, after Bob Barr and he talks about how in the state of Utah, ya' know, we -

Esther: I don't like this.

Katie: Yeah -

Esther: Because -

Katie: It starts with Utah -

Esther: Things starting out with Utah, they're nothing good. No good news ever comes out of there.

Katie: Okay; you're not gonna like this either. It's a little bit creepy. Basically Big Brother is apparently a bartender. Who knew? A multi-talented sibling, evil sibling. So the Barr Code blog is talking about in the state of Utah that if you go into a club and you look to be under 35 years old and you're trying to purchase alcohol, now instead of just making sure that you have a valid drivers' license or ID, doing whatever it is that they do, which is always really interesting. Different bouncers and bartenders have the weirdest ways of verifying that it's an actual ID. All those weird little quizzes that you get.

Esther: Totally weird.

Katie: Not that I've ever been under age and have had those quizzes to me, but instead of just doing that they are now scanning in, electronically scanning in your drivers' license and they're actually storing in a statewide database who is buying alcohol.

Esther: That's weird.

Katie: It's a little bit creepy and creepier still is that if a club or a bar does not in fact actually scan a patron's drivers' license they are subject to - I mean potentially getting fined or criminal sanctions in court.

Esther: Well they, I guess in this article, the lawyer for the state of Utah who's representing the state's hospitality association, kind of compared it to arresting somebody for appearing to be speeding and it kind of opens these doors for somebody to say, ‘Well, you were scanned in the database for having a white wine spritzer three hours ago. So you were driving 75 instead of 70. You must be drunk. Let's give you a ticket.'

Katie: Yeah. To me it's just a little bit disconcerting. I just don't - I mean I'm the girl that will exchange my grocery card scanner with friends so that the grocery store can't figure out exactly who I am and what it is that I buy regularly. I'm that girl -

Esther: Really?

Katie: I am that insane, paranoid person.

Esther: Wow.

Katie: Yeah; I actually go to those lengths.

Esther: I've never thought about that.

Katie: Yeah. Although you don't get all the coupons that you should, but whatever. I feel better about myself. So this, it just bugs me. Like I don't think that my government has any right to know what it is that - like when am I gonna get a call saying, ‘We've noticed that you've gotten off Vodka sodas. We'd like to talk about this. ‘

Esther: It appears you've switched to darker liquors. What's goin' on there?

Katie: How does that make you feel?

Esther: Makes me feel great. I drink it on the rocks.

Katie: And in other not actually business-related news, but still things that we're interested in, we found a pretty interesting article on the Fox News channel about the Boy Scouts. Esther, you wanna dive into that deep reporting news piece?

Esther: This is extremely interesting to me though because first of all, I guess when my brother was a young boy he was a Boy Scout and he made soapbox derby cars -

Katie: Yes.

Esther: And he built things with popsicle sticks and he went into the woods and peed in a bush and all these things. Now what they do, what they give badges for is apparently Nintendo. You can get a Nintendo badge.

Katie: Yeah.

Esther: Now this is very disconcerting I think. The Boy Scouts of America -

Katie: A video game -

Esther: -- which is a group that was obviously founded on these ideals of building character and morale and being fine upstanding citizens and all this stuff -

Katie: Being outside.

Esther: Yeah; gettin' your hands dirty. Apparently now you can get a badge for sitting on your ass playing a video game. So that's cool. I'm not sure how I feel about it although I guess I am sure how I feel about it. I feel pretty bad about it.

Katie: Yeah -

Esther: Can you imagine your child getting a badge for pushing buttons? A, B, A, B, up, down, up down.

Katie: Yeah; well another interesting quote -

Esther: It's like breaking the code.

Katie: -- in the article by a pediatrician, actually a professor of pediatrics at the University of New Mexico school of medicine, Dr. Vic Strasburger and he says this could either be quite visionary and exciting or a complete sellout.

Esther: Oh, it's such a sellout.

Katie: The devil is in the details he says, arguing that teaching kids media literacy would be extremely valuable as long as the games were not violent and had no sexual content -

Esther: Give me a break. Teaching kids media literacy? Oh please.

Katie: ‘Cause they really need help, ya' know. Because kids would never play video games.

Esther: That is such a copout.

Katie: Unless it was for a merit badge -

Esther: That is some PR spin if I've seen it. This woman, Renee Farer, she's a spokeswoman for the Boy Scouts of America says, ‘Let's be serious. The kids are already into video games.' So this is just a way to appear cool and hip and appeal to these kids who don't think the Boy Scouts are cool anymore so they're gonna start giving them badges for playing video games.

Katie: Wouldn't it be cool if instead and it's not just like yeah, you played a video game. Here's the thing. Like you play an hour a day for a certain amount of time to get this badge, which is ridiculous, but what if the merit badge was for actually programming a video game or creating. Not just consuming; creating something, which seems very up the Boy Scouts' alley, but no. So this is where it's going. Just one more reason that I myself am not a Boy Scout.

Esther: Yeah; one of the reasons.

Katie: And John just doesn't even know what to think of me now -

Esther: You can edit that out or keep it in ‘cause it's hilarious.

Katie: And you know it's true, John.

John: Ugh.

Esther: Oh man.

John: Ok, Keith.

Katie: Good times.

Esther: Oh man. So, something else that's scary. There's all this news in the world about Facebook and all the crazy things they're doing with our privacy. They're kind of - it's overstepping their boundaries -

Katie: Oh man.

Esther: They're sharing our private information with second parties and third parties.

Katie: Yeah.

Esther: And now there is a new movement that is set to launch on May 31st called Quit Facebook Day. Now the campaign comes amid all of these complaints that the social networking juggernaut is diminishing user's privacy with its open graph model that adds Facebook connections on other sites across the internet. Now I totally agree, but it's up to you to turn those things off. It's very easy. There are many ways you can do it and if you know about it you can do it. We can post them on our Facebook page if you're not sure how to do it. We can easily show you how.

Esther: Absolutely; Simple.

Katie: -- actually one of my favorite resources for all of that down and dirty stuff is a website called All Facebook.com and they keep tabs. I mean they post multiple times a day on everything that Facebook is up to. Everything from the big heads, the big Facebook leadership teams that are meeting about privacy concerns all the way to those little tiny details that really do matter whenever Facebook's trying to throw out all of your private information to the masses.

Esther: Well, ya' know it's funny. Apparently the San Francisco Chronicle's business insider blog kind of was making fun of this movement with the headline, Uh Oh, .0000068 Percent of Facebook Users Promise to Quit on May 31st.

Katie: I mean, it's true. As we look at the page right now there aren't even 3,000 people that have committed to quit and what's even funnier is that a lot of -

Esther: Who wants to quit?

Katie: Well, a lot of the organization of quitting Facebook is actually on Facebook. Delicious irony. Delicious.

Esther: I know.

Katie: I'm sure it's not lost on them, but still.

Esther: Oh man. Promote our movement on Facebook; quit Facebook. Oh man. It's like even the movements to quit need a Facebook page these days.

Katie: Honestly. What are they gonna do? Yeah.

Esther: Oh man, that's hilarious.

Katie: I mean I get it. I get it. I really do, but this is not the way to affect change and honestly I don't know what is with Facebook ‘cause there was a time just a couple years ago that Facebook was kind of taking in consideration these polls and they were really looking into what the people wanted and talking - judging people's reactions to what they were gonna do next.

Esther: The marketers got a hold of it.

Katie: The marketers got a hold of it.

Esther: They opened it up to everyone. You didn't have to be in college.

Katie: Yeah.

Esther: Didn't have to have a student ID to log on and then it became a free-for-all.

Katie: Yeah. So whether or not you are quitting on May 31st. Actually you shouldn't quit on May 31st and you should just come and join us at Facebook.com/overtimeshow and we'll totally tell you how to take care of all of your Facebook worries and woes ‘cause it's not an evil platform. I mean like you just have to be in control and kind of stay on top of things -

Esther: Absolutely.

Katie: -- in order to really customize your Facebook experience.

Esther: Well Facebook is not going to bring about end times. We're gonna be okay -

Katie: It's not.

Esther: We're gonna survive.

Katie: The Mayans were not predicting Facebook's whatever.

Esther: Yeah; if the end times come it won't be because of Facebook.

Katie: No. Maybe [Inaudible] but not Facebook.

Esther: So I guess that wraps up Business Week in Review. These are some kind of soft news stories, but funny none the less.

Katie: Yes; it was -

Esther: Brought about some interesting, relevant discussions.

Katie: Yes; exactly. Exactly.

Esther: Which is what we're all about; interesting and relevant discussions. I guess we have your great interview with the founder of Hoopnotica coming up in Chapter Two, huh?

Katie: Yes; she will spin us right round, baby right round -

Esther: Awesome. Well stay tuned for that. You're listening to the BusinessMakers Overtime Show heard here and online at thebusinessmakers.com. I'm Esther Steinfeld.

Katie: And I'm Katie Laird.

Esther: And stay tuned for Chapter Two.