Russ: This is the BusinessMakers Show heard on the radio and seen online at TheBusinessMakers.com. This is Episode Number 348 of that show about those that most positively affect our lives.
John: That's right. You're talking about the entrepreneur class. Working stiffs out there that create wealth, create products and services that people need. Speaking of products and services that people need, I can't believe we're on our 348th episode.
Russ: Well.
John: I think the people out there, the listeners out there, owe us a debt of gratitude because every time they turn on the show or catch it on the Web or whatever, it is all original content. We do not repeat ourselves.
Russ: Well -
John: And that's important.
Russ: - yeah, that was inspirational.
John: Yeah, darn right. You know and I think we should get some special recognition for that.
Russ: Yeah, like some kind of award.
John: An award, yeah. Anybody out there got any awards? Send 'em here.
Russ: [Laughs] that's right.
John: 'Cause we deserve them. Okay.
Russ: And what we talk about are those people that are the most important people in society. I don't know of any other show that does that but we're talking about the innovators. We're talking about the people that make real jobs.
John: Yeah.
Russ: And we're talking about the people that make tax payers, you know?
John: Actually, you're right. It's actually the customers of these companies who create the jobs.
Russ: Well, that's true, too.
John: And you need the products and services that, you know, sometimes people don't even know they want these things that come out, you know?
Russ: That's right, that's right.
John: I mean I tell people about the business journals. And we had done focus groups on these things back when we started 'em.
Russ: Yeah?
John: People are gonna say, "Are you nuts?" What the hell - what are we gonna need this for? A business journal? Playoffs?
Russ: All right, okay.
John: All right.
Russ: Well, and boy, it's interesting times that there continues to be innovators and entrepreneurs -
John: Oh, right.
Russ: - that's starting and growing businesses in this climate, don't you think?
John: I - absolutely.
Russ: Well and -
John: You hit the nail on the head.
Russ: Yeah and I mean and you just sorta take it back this weeks' events, but we've been saying this for multiple weeks in a row that the weeks' events are very unique these days. This past week, my God, this is the week where the President of the United States is out making a political speech - that's what it was - and in front of a bunch of people boasting about how good the economy is 'cause, you know, there are some little, small signs that there was a few jobs created and he was challenged by a lady in the audience, says, "Well my husband been trying for a year and he can't get a job," and the President said, "Well, what's he do?" And she said, "Well he's a semiconductor engineer," and he kinda looks perplexed because he's saying, "They're telling me that there's jobs like that for these guys," you know?
John: Well, he lives in a cocoon, obviously 'cause this recession has affected all strata of -
Russ: Yeah.
John: - it's just not the lower class or the middle class.
Russ: Right.
John: It means the top - people that used to be in top one percent aren't there anymore.
Russ: That's right.
John: They're down because they either get their jobs eliminated and they have to settle for something less later on or what have you.
Russ: Yeah, yeah. Well, plus, we know even in decent economies, which this isn't there, that you know, very qualified, very educated people don't have a guarantee for a job.
John: No.
Russ: And the President was kinda acting like, you know, "Well, they're hiring semiconductor," and he asks her, "Give me his resume. I really want to," now if that was your wife and the President was asking for your resume, would you want her to give it to him?
John: I would no more want the President of the United States to have my resume 'cause what they do is they would investigate me.
Russ: Yes.
John: Or they're gonna investigate this poor schmuck -
Russ: Yeah.
John: - and find out some things about him and it's all gonna go public, like Joe the Plumber had the guts to -
Russ: Yeah.
John: - ask Obama if he wants, you know, what's this share the wealth stuff and he got vilified for it. So, I don't know.
Russ: All right back to the people that create jobs.
John: Yeah.
Russ: That's what we're all about.
John: That's what - you're darn tootin'.
Russ: Yeah, in fact, there's a group of people here in Houston in our home base that create jobs, the EO Houston Group and man, they're a passionate group of business people who start and grow businesses and are very successful.
John: That's right, a lot of go-getters in this organization and they create products and services that people want. They attract customers.
Russ: Yep.
John: Or at least, you know, private equity capital so they can get out _______.
Russ: Yeah, right, right. Absolutely. All right. And here's our lineup for today. I'm gonna be able to sit down and talk with the Little Soya people. That's Gary Murphy and Crystal Lee. Gary's the founder and CEO of Little Products, Co., and Crystal is the Global Account Manager. Now this is cool, John, I've got a precursor to what it's gonna be all about. It's about the newest, happening soy sauce.
John: Wow.
Russ: And this is not your mother's soy sauce.
John: It's not. Why, does it have a lot of alcohol in it or something?
Russ: No, I don't think it does.
John: Oh.
Russ: But I know it has some of the unique packaging. It's gluten free -
John: Gluten free.
Russ: - it's low sodium.
John: Oh, wow.
Russ: And it's some of the best tasting soy sauce and, you know, soy sauce is soy sauce but this is a cool business story. These -
John: It's free range soy sauce.
Russ: - [laughs] yes, it is. These are not necessarily foodie people that suddenly dived in and this is their tenth try at getting into grocery stores. This is like their first try and they are knocking the ball out of the ball park. Cool story.
John: Well, good. All right.
Russ: But first -
Russ: - that's right it's time for The BusinessMakers School of Business and this is not your business as usual school.
John: No, no. We're so different. You know, we've talked about this three hundred and - actually we started School of Business probably after our what, 50th show or something?
Russ: I think it was earlier than that, maybe 20.
John: So, okay, so for over 300 times, we've been trying to explain to people what this is.
Russ: Yeah.
John: And again, the best description I can say is we're not flying at 30,000 feet like those big high-falutin' business schools that you have pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get through. We are a real-world, in the trenches, curriculum here that can really help people understand business, understand where they can go wrong with this history lesson that we teach. They can keep up with the latest slang and vernacular so they can seem like they're with-it with the word of the day. And there's a lot of great real-world things that we make up that we think can really help somebody. I mean just because it isn't true, doesn't mean it's not gonna help somebody.
Russ: No, you know, if they think it's true - they probably don't even have to think it's true.
John: Well we usually tell people if we're making stuff up.
Russ: S- we usually.
John: Yeah, we usually do. All right.
Russ: All right.
John: Okay.
Russ: And we kick off the School of Business each week with a quote of the day.
John: Quote of the day. Yes.
Russ: And today, once again, I'm gonna quote Margaret Thatcher. I'm a huge -
John: Ah, Maggie Thatcher.
Russ: - huge fan of hers. I love this. Here it is. "If my critics saw me walking over the Thames, they would say it was because I couldn't swim."
John: That's right.
Russ: Yeah. That's pretty good.
John: That's very good.
Russ: That's a jab at her critics and -
John: That's right. She had a ton of 'em. She had a lot of critics.
Russ: Yes, she had -
John: And she was able to weather them for a long period of time.
Russ: Yes she was.
John: Yeah. All right.
Russ: All right and that brings us to This Week in Business History. What kinda story do you have for us this week in business history?
John: Okay, this week in business history in 1895, a game called Mintonette was created.
Russ: So, what's Mintonette?
John: Well it's also known as volleyball.
Russ: Ah.
John: Okay, the name was changed to volleyball later on. And it was a great indoor game. People really liked it and people, you know, we didn't have any of these politically correct people around to stop people from, you know, spiking the ball in other people's faces, so I think it's a pretty good start to a game that's very popular.
Russ: It's a great game. You think there was a beach Mintonette?
John: A beach Mintonette?
Russ: Played in bikinis or -
John: Well, I think maybe there could've been, yes. Yeah, bikini beach volleyball.
Russ: Yeah. There you go.
John: Right. Okay. This week in business history in 1931, James Dean is born a moody, stage film actor was - I think he overacted a lot.
Russ: Yeah.
John: I know people think he's a -
Russ: Well I think that's what they did back then.
John: I think a lotta people think he's the greatest thing that ever happened.
Russ: Yeah.
John: I mean I liked him in Giant. Rebel Without a Cause he was kind of a - he was just a mess in that movie. So - but he was born and -
Russ: Well yeah, Giant, God, the character he played was Jett Rink.
John: Yeah, right, yeah.
Russ: And who was based upon a Houston wildcatter.
John: Yeah, Glen McCarthy, yeah, right.
Russ: Yeah. Who I briefly met. I don't know I told you that.
John: Briefly met.
Russ: Well I was in -
John: Was in passing by him in the airport?
Russ: No, I was a salesman making door-to-door calls -
John: Oh, wow.
Russ: - and called on his office. I didn't know it. I didn't know it until a year after I was there, but I was invited in and the front secretaries asked me did I know whose office this was. I said, "No, I don't." And they said, "Glen McCarthy," and I said - I knew from sales school that you're supposed to be impressed when they do that, so I went, "Ooh," and she said, "Would you like to meet him?" I said, "Yeah." I still didn't know who he was. I went in and visited with him for about 15 minutes and bored him to death with my stories about IBM and then he said, "Thank you, young man," and there was probably two or three years later that I realized, "That was James Dean in there that I just met."
John: Yeah.
Russ: Thank you for your attention.
John: All right, this week in business history in 1931, the classic board game, Monopoly was invented.
Russ: Cool.
John: How many times have you played Monopoly?
Russ: Yeah, I played it. I played it a bunch when I was a kid. In retrospect, I played it many times not even understanding what monopoly meant or understanding economics.
John: What was your favorite property to have?
Russ: Boardwalk.
John: Yeah, Board- yeah.
Russ: Park Place. Yeah.
John: I know but it was only two blocks.
Russ: Yeah.
John: And people wouldn't -
Russ: Yeah, that's true.
John: I like the railroads.
Russ: Well the railroads were great. Yeah.
John: Yeah, they were good.
Russ: They were pretty cool, yeah.
John: Yeah, Go. I like Go.
Russ: Go was good. Yeah.
John: Go was good.
Russ: Yeah.
John: All right, this week in business history in 1940 "In the Mood" by Glenn Miller hits number one, then two years later the same week, he is awarded the first ever gold disc for selling a million copies of "Chattanooga Choo Choo".
Russ: What an entertainer.
John: Yeah, what, yeah, obviously.
Russ: Yep.
John: Yeah, look at all his awards, man.
Russ: Yep.
John: That doesn't happen - that's not just dumb luck.
Russ: Yep.
John: Okay. This week in business history in 1942, the birthdate, didn't we just talk about here, Carole King?
Russ: Yeah.
John: All right. Aren't you tired of hearing about her?
Russ: Yeah, but it wasn't her birthday before.
John: Yeah.
Russ: And so, there's a - so '42, '58 and 12. Ooh, she's 70.
John: Yeah.
Russ: Wow.
John: Okay. All right. Carole, keep going. All right, this week in business history in 1943 shoe rationing begins in the U.S. Now this was due to World War II -
Russ: Wow.
John: And the leather was rather scarce and they needed all the leather and everything for boots for Army boots for the - or military boots for the Marines.
Russ: Right. And we probably don't have that kind of discipline or nationalism today. If they told us to start rationing shoes, I don't think we'd do it.
John: Yeah, we might.
Russ: Yeah?
John: Depends on who's telling us to do it.
Russ: Yeah, it would and why they were telling us.
John: And why we were doing it.
Russ: But it was such a different era. My God everybody chipped in.
John: Okay. This week in business history in 1949, Arthur Miller's "Death of a Salesman" opens at the Morosco Theater in New York City. It ran for 742 performances, winning Tony award, Pulitzer Prize, probably one of the most depressing plays a theater piece you ever seen in your life. Matter of fact, the first performance of this play -
Russ: Right, yeah?
John: - there was a crowd from the local Dale Carnegie sales course that went to see this thing -
Russ: Yeah? Yeah.
John: - and at the end of the show, they all went out in the parking lot and about half of them shot themselves, they were so depressed, thinking what kind of job, career path have I gotten myself into, here?
Russ: This is one of those parts of the show where maybe it's made up?
John: It could be. But I'm sure - hey, I've seen some Arthur Miller plays.
Russ: And you considered suicide?
John: And I have not considered shooting myself but I can, I tell ya, I have considered -
Russ: Overdosing with pills?
John: - overdosing or something. I mean, he's like - I mean the guys definitely has a skewed look on American life.
Russ: All right. That's unfortunate.
John: It is. Right, okay. This week in business history in 1955, the McGuire Sisters', "Sincerely" goes to number one and stays number one for ten weeks, 1955.
Russ: What a great song.
John: Yeah. And the really cool story about the McGuire Sisters is one of the sisters' name was Phyllis McGuire.
Russ: Yeah?
John: And she dated Sam Giancana, one of the most ruthless, sadistic gangsters that ever walked the earth.
Russ: Now is this made up?
John: I'm not making this up.
Russ: This is true?
John: This is true.
Russ: Wow.
John: Man.
Russ: Wow. Okay, I didn't know that.
John: Yeah, well that's why it's the -
Russ: You don't get this at regular business school, do you?
John: Hell no. I know, so just watch out.
Russ: Yeah. Okay.
John: If you see a singer and you wanna date her, she might be dating a ruthless thug.
Russ: [Laughs] yeah, right.
John: Yeah, okay.
Russ: Okay, I'll keep my eyes open.
John: Okay, this week in business history in 1959, Jack Kilby of Texas Instruments files the first patent for an integrated circuit.
Russ: Whoa. People - a lot of things happened at Texas Instruments.
John: Mm-hm.
Russ: You know, people don't talk about it much, you know?
John: Yeah.
Russ: They love to talk about Intel. They talk about AMD, they talk about Sony but Texas Instruments, I mean that's where Rod Canyon and that bunch came from, too, man.
John: All right. This week in business history in 1962, President Kennedy begins the blockade of Cuba in the United States bans all Cuban imports and exports. So goodbye Cuban cigars.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Now there's a rumor that President Kennedy, before he begins the blockade of Cuba banning the imports and exports, he made sure he got a special shipment of about a thousand Cuban cigars.
Russ: Now is this made?
John: No, I heard that.
Russ: So this is like a rumor.
John: Right, I'm not making that up.
Russ: Yeah, you're not making it up that that was a rumor.
John: Yeah, no I read it, though.
Russ: Yeah, okay.
John: Right, it could happen.
Russ: Right.
John: No, but I'm not making it up.
Russ: Yeah, okay.
John: Okay, I'm not.
Russ: Somebody else mighta made it up, though, right?
John: Right, right.
Russ: Yeah. All right.
John: Okay, this week in business history in 1969 the world's largest airplane at the time, the Boeing 747, makes its first commercial flight.
Russ: Wow.
John: I remember when that thing came out. It had the real sleek top.
Russ: Yeah.
John: And, yeah it had a lounge at the top.
Russ: Yeah, like a two-story cabin.
John: Yeah, right behind where the pilots sit.
Russ: Yeah, yeah.
John: Yeah.
Russ: I never flew on one, did you?
John: I don't think I've ever been on one.
Russ: Yeah, right, I haven't.
John: I don't. Okay, this week in business history in 1971, the NASDAQ stock market index debuts. NASDAQ is as the American Stock Exchange. NASDAQ originally stood for National Association of Security Deals Automated Quotations.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Now Bernie Madoff -
Russ: Yeah?
John: - who later on engineered the world's largest Ponzi scheme in the history of business -
Russ: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
John: - was one of pioneers, one of the guys who started this.
Russ: Yeah he was. He was.
John: And that's everybody had such faith in his decisions 'cause hey, this guy started NASDAQ.
Russ: This guy knows what he's doing.
John: He knows what he's doing.
Russ: Yeah, well now also.
John: Well he did know what he was doing.
Russ: Yeah, now we've not had Bernie on the show and it's looking pretty hard to get him, nowadays.
John: Yeah.
Russ: But we did have Michael Oxley on the show -
John: Right.
Russ: - who most recently, I don't know if he still is, but was Vice Chairman of NASDAQ.
John: Right, yeah, Vice Chairman.
Russ: Yeah, so might still be.
John: Yeah, so I was responsible for some of the most onerous regulations on public companies ever.
Russ: Yeah. Yeah, still. It's still a -
John: And he's being feted with, you know, "Oh, he's President of the NASDAQ. Let's hear him speak."
Russ: Yeah.
John: You know, well the guy ought to be ashamed of himself.
Russ: Yeah, well it still causes pain. Sarbanes-Oxley -
John: Oh yeah.
Russ: - you know, all the time.
John: Just saying the word, Sarbanes-Oxley doesn't that sound like a partnership of evil dentists.
Russ: Right [laughs]. Well as you've already pointed out in the past, we already had plenty of laws that made what Enron did illegal -
John: Illegal. Right.
Russ: - that's what they were convicted of.
John: Yeah.
Russ: And to layer on top of that -
John: More law, yeah.
Russ: Yeah, now a layer on top of it rules and regulations but awfully onerous and taxing rules and regulations.
John: I know and there's no end to it. Before you know, they're gonna come up with some more stuff.
Russ: Yeah.
John: I guarantee ya.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Okay, this week in business history in 1990 the USSR Communist Party agrees to allow opposition political parties, which probably the death-knell of communism. It's kind of -
Russ: Yeah, that brought it down. That's why they're bringing it back, now.
John: That's right. That's right. Putin -
Russ: Yeah. We don't need any other party.
John: He's eliminated all his - eliminating all his opponents, then.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Okay.
Russ: But he's run into some resistance, you know?
John: Of course he is.
Russ: Yeah.
John: These people don't wanna go back to that.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Every now and then the liberal media'll say, "A lot of people look back fondly on communism and wish the system is still around." That's bunk.
Russ: Yeah, yeah.
John: Okay. Yeah, the -
Russ: Well maybe the occupied people.
John: Go look at that, the gulag up there where they used to send anybody.
Russ: Yeah, the occupied people might think it sounds good.
John: Let's send them there. Let's send them there.
Russ: That sounds good but it's - it does sound good.
John: What?
Russ: Communism.
John: It does.
Russ: Yeah. Sounds real good. We'll all have everything. We won't have to work overtime anymore.
John: That's right. From each according to their means to each according to their needs.
Russ: Yeah, there you go.
John: There you go. All right. This week in business history in 1993, GM sues NBC alleging that "Dateline NBC" program had rigged two car truck crashes to show that 1973-'87 GM pickups were prone to fires.
Russ: Well they were prone to fires if you put those little rockets by the gas tank.
John: Yes they did. Yeah.
Russ: Yeah [laughs].
John: That would really suck the -
Russ: I mean, I remember so vividly when that happened. I was shocked that they would go that far.
John: Right.
Russ: I mean it was so deceptive.
John: So deceptive.
Russ: Yeah. You know, I quit watching NBC forever after that.
John: Yeah, its' like the fake memos that -
Russ: Oh yeah.
John: - said George Bush __________.
Russ: Yeah, that was CBS. Yeah.
John: That's CBS, well the story was true, it's just that the evidence was fabricated.
Russ: Right, right. Right.
John: This week in business history in 2004 Facebook, a mainstream online social networks founded my Mark Zuckerberg - there's three Harvard seniors that were somewhat involved in this.
Russ: Who had a hand - yeah.
John: It got pretty - I don't think they got shafted.
Russ: No, they came out okay but -
John: Eventually they - but they had to incur a lot of expenses and -
Russ: Yeah, well they got - I think they've gotten at least 50 million and maybe more in damages but they were the Winklevoss guys - ought to change their names, number one, 'cause that's such a weird name but were really the founders of the idea and the third guy, what was his name?
John: Divya Narendra.
Russ: Yeah. They were the guys that had the idea and they were right. I mean, based on social media.
John: Divya had the algorithm or something.
Russ: Yeah well and based on the movie, Social Media, we know that movies are always true and -
John: Of course they are.
Russ: - that's where you get -
John: They wouldn't film them if they weren't true.
Russ: [Laughs] that's right. And there's like -
John: Just like the Internet. Everything you see on the Internet is gotta be true or they wouldn't put it on the Internet.
Russ: That's right. Yeah, that's right. Okay.
John: Okay?
Russ: But another interesting note about this last item in your history lesson. Think about 2004. That was only eight years ago.
John: I know.
Russ: And this company has just exploded. They also wiped out MySpace, you know, and when people, you know get in the -
John: Just like the Germans marching through Belgium or something.
Russ: Yeah, yeah. But when people get into the anti-trust rules and regulations, this is further proof you don't really need them. The market will take care of itself.
John: That's right, the market decides who lives or dies.
Russ: Yeah, yeah. But we have to give a shout out to the Winklevoss guys.
John: A shout out.
Russ: I'm sure they're listening right now.
John: I'm sure they are.
Russ: Yeah, and they know that we know that they were the -
John: Cameron and Tyler if you're out there somewhere, you know, let us know. Give us a call. Send us an e-mail.
Russ: Give us a call. We know you really came up with the idea. Although there's also the argument, well it's not always the idea, it's the execution and I guess -
John: Right.
Russ: - and I guess Zuckerberg's kind of executed fairly well, wouldn't you say?
John: Yeah, so far. Although he keeps tinkering with it and sometimes he makes mistakes.
Russ: Hacks people off and stuff.
John: Oh yeah, right, yeah.
Russ: All right. All right but that does wrap up today's history lesson.
John: Hey, that's enough, isn't it?
Russ: Well it is. I mean, it's pretty impressive - James Dean to Cameron Winklevoss.
John: James Dean - that's right.
Russ: all in one history lesson.
John: One history lesson.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Of many.
Russ: Covered that ground.
John: Many to follow and many that we've had in the past.
Russ: You bet. All right and that brings us to Navigating Business Jargon, also known as our vocabulary lesson.
John: That's right.
Russ: The rules are I get to go out and find a word, a new jargon word, and challenge John to come up with the meaning.
John: That's right.
Russ: And -
John: And I don't even know what the word is.
Russ: Yeah, that's right. No wagering, please.
John: That's right.
Russ: Today's word is hopium.
John: Hopium.
Russ: Hopium.
John: Hopium. Hmm. Okay, I'm gonna take a stab at this.
Russ: Okay.
John: Okay, we all know what opium is. That's a drug you can get addicted to -
Russ: Yeah.
John: - which will do you no good whatsoever.
Russ: Yeah, right.
John: Okay. Hopium is when you're addicted to hope.
Russ: Yeah.
John: Because of what you hear out there, think, "Boy, if you just hope for it, it'll happen."
Russ: Ladies and gentleman hold your calls. We have a winner.
John: And because it doesn't happen, you keep doing the same thing over and over again.
Russ: Right, right.
John: Thinking that hope become addicted to wishing things would happen instead of going out and making them happen. That's how you make things happen. If you - it's okay to have hope but after you have the hope, "Gee I hope I can get an A on this test,"
Russ: It's okay to be optimistic.
John: Yeah, it's okay to be but you - then you gotta study and you gotta make sure you make an A on the test.
Russ: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, precisely.
John: Just because you're sitting there hoping about it, it's not gonna make it true or happen.
Russ: And we've been living under a hopium culture.
John: Yeah a hopium culture, right.
Russ: For a while.
John: Yeah, we got this - the guy in the White House.
Russ: The actual specific definition is the irrational belief that despite all evidence to the contrary, things will turn out for the best.
John: Right. That's hopium.
Russ: Yes it is. All right. All right and before we wrap up the show, though, it's time for Dumb Moments in Business. Do you have a dumb moment?
John: Hmm.
Russ: All right, so I tell you what we'll do. We'll use that commentary that I had in the very beginning -
John: Right.
Russ: - about the guy that's the integrated circuit engineer -
John: Right.
Russ: - not being able to get a job.
John: Not being able to get a job, right..
Russ: And the President acting confused, now wait, so they're telling me you should be able to get a job, you know.
John: Right.
Russ: And now he's gonna, you know, he insisted to the wife, "Gimme -
John: His resume.
Russ: - your husband's resume."
John: Right. And it's -
Russ: Yeah, they might need an integrated circuit engineer there in the White House.
John: You know, they might very well need somebody.
Russ: He could be the czar.
John: He could be the Czar of Integrated Circuits.
Russ: He could.
John: Right. Okay.
Russ: Okay, all right, before we wrap it up, it's time for the PKF Texas Entrepreneurs Playbook.
John: Yeah. Here he is.
Russ: So let's welcome a guy who's -
John: Greg Price.
Russ: - who's never been accused of dealing some hopium.
John: Being late. No, he's not a hopium kinda guy.
Russ: No. He's a realistic guy.
John: He's an upbeat - he's an upbeat, optimistic guy.
Russ: Yeah he is.
John: But he's not a slave of hope.
Russ: That's right.
John: Okay.
Russ: Mr. Greg Price.
John: Okay, here we go. A one and a two and a -
Russ: A one and a two and a - Okay and that wraps up today's School of Business. Stay tuned in for my interview with Gary Murphy, founder and CEO of Little Products, Co. This is the BusinessMakers Show heard on the radio and seen online at TheBusinessMakers.com.
